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王仲石:挚爱再保险 来世还姓“再”

发布时间: 2020年01月07日浏览次数:

采访时间:2019年6月17日

CAIFANGDIDIAN:BEIJINGHAIDIANYUSUO

人物小传

  WANGZHONGSHI,1925NIAN7YUECHUSHENG,1946NIANKAORUSHANGHAIDEZHONGGUOBAOXIANGONGSI,CONGLINSHIGUYUANZUOQI。JIEFANGHOUGENSUIZHONGGUOBAOXIANGONGSICONGSHANGHAIQIANRUBEIJING,JIARUZHONGGUORENMINBAOXIANGONGSI,ZAIGUOWAIYEWUCHUXIASHEDEZAIBAOKEZHANGDANZUGONGZUO,CONGSHIZAIBAOXIANYEWU,LIRENZAIBAOXIANCHUFUCHUZHANG、ZAIBAOBUFUZONGJINGLIDENGZHIWU。

历经坎坷 结缘保险业

  问:您解放前就从事保险事业了,请给我们讲下您与保险结缘的过程吧。

  WANGZHONGSHI:1946NIANZHONGGUOBAOXIANGONGSIZHAOKAO,YONGSUANPANJISUANFENBAOFEI,WOSHIZHEBAOKAO。ZAIBEILUYONGDESHIHOU,HAIXUYAOZHAOYIGEYOUZHENGSHIGONGZUODERENDANBAO,WOQIANFANGBAIJIZHAOLEYIGEYUANFANGQINQIJIWOZUODANBAO,CAICHENGWEIZHONGGUOBAOXIANGONGSIDELINSHIGUYUAN,XIANGSHOUZUIDIDEDAIYU,SUISHIKENENGBEIKAICHU。NEIGEDANBAOSHUSHIJIJIUSHIMAISHENQI。

1946NIANRUZHIZHONGGUOZAIBAOXIANGONGSIDE“PUBAO”

  1949NIAN5YUE27RISHANGHAIJIEFANG,ZHONGGUOBAOXIANGONGSIBEIJUNGUAN,LAILEJIWEIJUNDAIBIAO。6YUE20RI,ZHONGGUOBAOXIANGONGSIZHENGSHIFUYE,YIWEIJUNDAIBIAOBAYIZHANGBIAONAJIWOSHUO,NIXIANZAIYOUGONGZUOLE,ZHEIZHANGDANBAOSHUMEIYOUYONGCHULE,NISHIZHONGGUOBAOXIANGONGSIDEYIMINGZHENGSHIZHIYUANLE。WONEISHIHOUFEICHANGGANDONG,GANJUEZIJIYIXIAZIJIEFANGLE,YOULEZIYOU。WOTEBIEGANJIGONGCHANDANG,JILEJIATINGKUNNANDEWOYIFENGONGZUO,YOULEGONGZUOWOCAIYOUSHENGCUNDEJIHUI。

1949NIAN10YUEZHONGGUORENMINBAOXIANGONGSIDIYICIQUANGUOHUIYIHEYING

  1949NIAN10YUE20RI,ZHONGGUORENMINBAOXIANGONGSIZAIBEIJINGCHENGLI,WOSUOZAIDEZHONGGUOBAOXIANGONGSIYEGUIZHONGGUORENMINBAOXIANGONGSILINGDAO。1951NIAN,ZHONGGUOBAOXIANGONGSICONGSHANGHAIQIANLAIBEIJING,WOXIANGYINGZUZHIHAOZHAO,DIYIPIBAOMINGLAIBEIJING,HOULAIJIULAIDAORENBAOGONGSIZUOFENBAOZHANGDANDEGONGZUO。

1951NIANSUIZHONGGUOBAOXIANGONGSIQIANRUBEIJING

  问:您转到了人保再保科工作后,主要做哪些工作?

  WANGZHONGSHI:NEISHIHOUWOZUOWEIGUANYUNSHUXIANDEFUKEZHANG,FUZEHANGYUNDEFENBAO、ZAIBAOXIANYEWU。WOZHUYAOZUOFENBAOZHANGDANDEGONGZUO,ZHEIZHONGGONGZUORENJIADOUBUYUANYIZUO,YITIANDAOWANJIUFENNEIGEDANZI,ERQIESHIHENDUO,YINIANJINCHUKOUGONGSISONGLAIDEDANZIJIUSHIJIWANZHANG,HENBOHENBODEZHI。ZAIDAYUEJINDESHIHOU,YOUYICIWOMENJIGERENZAIYIGEGONGHUIDEFANGJIANLIFENNEIGEDANZI,YIDUIYIDUI,DOUSHIANZHAOXIANBIEFENKAIDE,YIZHENKUANGFENGJIUBADANZIDOUCHUISANLE,SANLEJIUBAILAODONGLE,WOXINLIZHENSHINANSHOUDEBUDELE。

  WOBAGONGCHANDANGDANGWODEENREN,YIKAISHIHUAICHUAIZHEBAOENDESIXIANG,PINMINGDIGONGZUO。HOULAIWOJUEDEBAOENSHIYOUWANDE,ERWODUIZAIBAOXIANSHIYEDEREAISHIWUQIONGJINDE,SUOYIZAIGONGZUOSHANGFEICHANGNULI。1959NIAN,WOBEIPINGWEIQUANGUOXIANJINGONGZUOZHE,ZHEISHIWODERONGYU,YESHIGONGSIDUIWOGONGZUODEKENDING。

九人小组 维系民族保险业血脉

  问:文革期间,国内业务停办,“9人小组”坚守保险业最后的阵地,您给我们讲下这段历史吧。

  WANGZHONGSHI:SHIJICONG1958NIANGUONEIBAOXIANYEWUJIUBEITINGBANLE,JINJINLIUXIABUFENYUANYANGCHUANBOXIANJIZAIBAOXIANDENGYEWU。DAOLEWENGEQIJIAN,BAOXIANBEIRENWEISHIZIBENZHUYIDECHANWU,YUSHI“ZABAOXIAN”DEKOUHAOBEIZAICIJIAOXIANG,ZAI“YANGNUZHEXUE”DEKOUHAOXIA,YUANYANGCHUANBOXIANYU1969NIAN1YUE1RITINGBAN;JINCHUKOUHUOWUYUNSHUBAOXIANFUJIA“BAGONGXIAN”BENLAISHIGUOJISHICHANGPUBIANCHENGBAODEXIANZHONG,BEIRENWEISHIWEIBEIGUOJIZHUYIYUANZELICHANGYAOZONGGONGSITINGBAN;XIANGGANGDEZHONGBAO、TAIPINGHEMINANDENGBAOXIANGONGSIYEANZHAOTONGZHIYAOQIUTINGBANXIANGGUANYEWU,ZAOCHENGYEWUDELIUSHI。

  1969NIAN6YUECHU,GUOJIAJIGUANHEGUOYINGQIYEBUDUANDIJINGJIANJIGOU,CHENGLILEHENDUOGEYEWUXIAOZU。BAOXIANGONGSIBAJUEDABUFENZAIZHIGANBUXIAFANGDAOHENANHUAIBIN“WUQI”GANXIAOLAODONG,LIUXIALE9GERENLAIZUOSHOUWEIGONGZUO,CHENGLI“BAOXIANYEWUZU”,“9RENXIAOZU”YOUCIDEMING,YEBEICHENGWEI“ZHISANGWEIYUANHUI”,WOSHI9RENZHIYI。HOULAIYOUYOU4GERENLUXUJIARU,SHIJISHI13RENXIAOZU。ZAINEIDUANTESHUDESHIQI,GUONEIBAOXIANYEWUQUANBUTINGBAN,ZAIBAOXIANPINGJIEFENSANGUONEIFENGXIAN、HUODEWAIHUIPEICHANGDENGBUKETIDAIDEZUOYONG,WEIXIZHEXINZHONGGUOMINZUBAOXIANYEBUJIANDUANDELISHI。

  1969NIAN6YUEZHONGXUN,YOUBAJISITANKONGYUNJINKOUBOJINFASHENGDIUSHI,WAIMAOBUXIANGZHOUZONGLIHUIBAOSHI,ZHOUZONGLIPIPINGWEISHENMEBUBANBAOXIAN,LIJIZHICHU“BAOXIANHAISHIYAOBAN,BAOXIANSHIDUIWAILIANXIDEQUDAO,DIRENXIANGYAOGULIWOMEN,WOMENBUYAOZIJIGULIZIJI”。LIXIANNIANFUZONGLILIANYEXIANGDANGSHIRENXINGLINGDAOQIAOPEIXINCHUANDALEZHOUZONGLIDEZHISHI。QIAOPEIXINYOUZAILINGCHENERDIANZHAOJIZONGXINGGUOWAIYEWUJULINGDAOJIBAOXIANYEWUZU,JISHICHUANDAZHOUZONGLIDEZHISHI。

  ZHOUZONGLIDEZHISHISHIWOGUOBAOXIANYEDEYIFAZHANDEYIGEZHUANZHEDIAN。GENJUZONGLIDEZHISHI,YITINGBANDE“BAGONGXIAN”、“YUNYANGCHUANBOBAOXIAN”FENBIEYU1971NIANHE1972NIANHUIFUBANLI,GUOJIFENBAOYEWUYEBEIBAOLIUXIALAI。SHIYIJIESANZHONGQUANHUIYIHOUBOLUANFANZHENG,1979NIAN2YUE5RIRENXINGFENXINGZHANGHUIYIZUOCHUCONG1980NIANQIHUIFUTINGBAN20DUONIANDEGUONEIBAOXIANYEWUDEJUEDING,JINGGUOBUPINGFANDEDAOLU,ZHONGGUOBAOXIANSHIYOUZHONGXIEXINDEPIANZHANG。

与国同生 中再发展蒸蒸日上

  问:从再保险科到再保险处、再保险部,几代再保险人一步步艰苦创业、发展壮大,您能回忆下这几个机构沿革情况吗?

  WANGZHONGSHI:1949NIAN10YUE20RI,ZHONGGUORENMINBAOXIANGONGSIZAIBEIJINGCHENGLI,XIASHEZAIBAOXIANKE,ZHONGZAIJITUANJIQIYUANYUCI,WOMENSHIYUGUOTONGSHENG,DAOJINNIANYIYOU70NIANDELISHILE。

  1951NIANHE1963NIANFENBIEFASHENGLE“HAIHOULUN”WUZIBEITAIWANDANGJUJIECHIHE“YUEJINLUN”SHOUHANGCHUJIAOCHENMEIDESHIGU,YOUYUZAIBAOXIANDEJISHIFENBAO,WOMENCONGGUOJISHICHANGTANHUILEDALIANGDEWAIHUI,WEIJINGJIHUIFUZHONGJIANZUOCHUZHONGYAOGONGXIAN,ZAIBAOXIANDEZUOYONGTUXIAN。SUIRANDANGSHIGUONEIBAOXIANYEWUYIJIBENTINGBAN,DANHAIWAIYEWURENGZAIFAZHAN,1964NIANZAIZAIBAOXIANKEDEJICHUSHANGCHENGLIZAIBAOXIANCHU。GAIGEKAIFANGYIHOU,GUONEIBAOXIANYEWUDEYIHUIFU,GENJUYEWUFAZHANDEXUYAO,1984NIANCHENGLILEZAIBAOXIANBU,ZHIDAO1996NIANZHONGBAOZAIBAOXIANGONGSICHENGLI,ZAIBAOXIANDEJIGOUBUDUANSHENGJI,DUIWUBUDUANZHUANGDA。

  问:您一直兢兢业业工作,为再保险的发展做出了突出的贡献。1984年再保险部成立时,您也成为了再保部第一任副总经理,您能回忆一下当时您主要负责的工作吗?

  WANGZHONGSHI:WOBEIRENMINGWEIZAIBAOXIANBUFUZONGJINGLI,FENGUANZHANGDANCHU,ZHIHOUYOUGUANLIYAFEILADEYEWU,FUZEDUIWAIYEWULIANXI。NEIGESHIHOUMAOZHUXIDUISHIJIEYOUSANGEHUAFEN:DIYISHIJIE、DIERSHIJIE、DISANSHIJIE。YAFEILASHUYUDISANSHIJIE,DANGSHIZHENGHAOYOUYIGEYAFEIBAOXIANZAIBAOXIANLIANHEHUI。ZAILIANHEHUIKAIHUIDESHIHOU,RENBAOGONGSIDELINGDAOJIUDAIWOQU,YINWEIWOFUZEDESHIYAFEILADIQUDEYEWU。WODAOGUO30DUOGEGUOJIA,JIECHULEJINBAIGEBAOXIANGONGSIHEBAOXIANJINGJIREN,ZAIGOUTONGJIAOLIUZHIHOUYOULEYEWUWANGLAI。

1973NIANFANGWENAERBANIYAGUOJIACHUXUYINXINGJIBAOXIANXUEHUI

  问:您提到了1985年在北京举办的亚非保险再保联合会,能介绍一下这个会议并谈一谈您参加会议的心得吗?

  WANGZHONGSHI:YAFEIBAOXIANZAIBAOXIANLIANHEHUI(F.A.I.R)SHIGENJU1955NIANWANLONGHUIYIJUEYIDEJINGSHENYU1964NIANCHENGLIDE,WOMENSHIF.A.I.RDECHUANGJIANRENZHIYI。1985NIAN9YUE,F.A.I.RDIJIUCIDAHUIYUBEIJINGJUXING,GUOWUYUANFUZONGLITIANJIYUNZHIKAIMUCI,GUOWUWEIYUANCHENMUHUAZUOWEIF.A.I.RZHONGYAOGUIBINWEIDAIBIAOMENBANJIANG。ZAIHUIYIZHONGLINGDAOZHISHIYAOTEBIEZHONGSHIGUOBIEZHENGCE,JIDUIYAFEIGUOJIAQIANGDIAO“TUANJIEHEZUO”,DUIDIERSHIJIEGUOJIADUOJIANG“PINGDENGHULI”,DUIDIYISHIJIEGUOJIAZE“ZHENFENGXIANGDUI、CUNTUBURANG”。HUIYIDEXIAOGUOYEFEICHANGHAO,YOUYEWUJIAOLIUYOUYOULANBANJIANG,GAODEYOUSHENGYOUSE,TIGAOLEZHONGGUOBAOXIANJIEDEGUOJIWEIXIN,YEWEI1986NIANZHAOKAIT.W.I.CHUIYICHUANGZAOLELIANGHAOTIAOJIAN。

  YOUYUFENBAOGONGZUODESHEWAIXINGHEGUOJIXING,ZAICHUFANGHECANJIAGUOJIHUIYIDEXUEXIYUSHIJIANZHONG,WOMENSHENSHENTIHUIDAOLEFENBAOSHIDUIWAILIANXIDEQUDAO,SHIWEIMAOZHUXIGEMINGWAIJIAOLUXIANFUWUDEYIGEZUCHENGBUFEN。ZAIZHENGQUELUXIANDEZHIYINXIA,BAOXIANZHENGZAIWEISHEHUIZHUYIGEMINGHESHEHUIZHUYIJIANSHEFUWU。

  FENBAOSHIYIXIANGFUZADEGONGZUO,JIYOUJINGJIYOUYOUZHENGZHI,JIXUYAOGUANGFANDEZHUANYEZHISHI,YOUXUYAOLEJIEGUOJIXINGSHIZHENGCEHECELVE。TONGGUOCANJIAF.A.I.RHUIYIWORENSHIDAOZAIGUOBIEZHENGCEXIA,WOMENXUYAOGENJUBUTONGDUIXIANGHETEDIANJINXINGGUANGFANJIECHU,YUYAFEIHUIYUANJINXINGXIANGHULEJIE,PEIYANGYOUYI,CUJINYEWUWANGLAI,TONGSHIYEYAOWEIHUYAFEIDULIZIZHU,TUANJIEFANDI。SHEWAIGONGZUOJISHIQINGSHIHUIBAO,YANGEZUNSHOUWAISHIJILVYESHIFEICHANGZHONGYAODE。

耄耋之年 实现入党愿望

  问:您在80岁时还在中再实现了您入党的心愿,大家也都很为您高兴,请您讲一下当时的经历。

  WANGZHONGSHI:WOYIZHIBAGONGCHANDANGDANGZUOWODEENREN,SHANGHAIGANGJIEFANGDESHIHOU,WOJIUXIEGUORUDANGSHENQINGSHU,XIELEHENDUO,SUIRANYIZHIMEINENGRUYUAN,DANSHIWODUIRUDANGSHIZHONGCHONGMANXINXIN。HOULAIDAOLE1987NIAN,WOCANJIALEMINMENG,DAOLEMINZHUDANGPAIWOHAISHIXIANGJIARUGONGCHANDANG。HOULAITUIXIULE,LITUIXIUDUIWULIYOUHAODUOLAOGANBU,TAMENDOUTINGHUANYINGWORUDANG。

  2004NIAN,WO80SUILE,ZHONGYUDECHANGSUOYUANJIARULEDANGZUZHI,TEBIEJIDONG,DAJIAYEDOUHENGAOXING,SHANGHAIYOUYIGELAOTONGZHIZHIDAOHOUHAIXIEXINZHUHEWO。SHIRENZHONGZAIJITUANDEFUZONGJINGLIZHAOFENGXIANGYETEYIXIELEFUZISONGJIWO,NEIRONGSHI“WANGLAOBASHIXIRUDANG,HONGHULINGYUNZHUILIXIANG。XIANSHENZAIBAOQINGXINXUE,YIZHIYIYEZONGQINGZHANG”。

2004NIANZHONGZAIFUZONGJINGLIZHAOFENGXIANGWEIWANGZHONGSHIRUDANGTICI

  问:您在保险业辛苦耕耘了50余载,能谈一谈您对于保险的一些认识吗?

  WANGZHONGSHI:CONG1946NIANDAO1996NIANWOZAIBAOXIANXINGYEZUZUGONGZUOLE50NIAN,YEJIUSHIBANGESHIJI。QIJIAN,RENBAOGUANGDONGSHENGGONGSIZAIXIANGGANGCHENGLILEYUEHAIYAZHOUBAOXIANGONGSI,WOYOUQUXIANGGANGGONGZUOLE4NIAN,ZUOZAIBAOXIANYEWU,ZIJIYEXUEXIDAOHENDUOXINDEZHISHI。

  BAOXIANCONGJINGJIGUANXISHANGJIANGSHIYIZHONGJINGJIBUCHANGZHIDU,TAYIDASHUFAZEWEIJICHU,GENJUKEXUEJISUANDEYUANZEJUJIBAOXIANFEI、JIANLIBAOXIANJIJIN,YONGYUBUCHANGZIRANZAIHAIHEYIWAISHIGUSUOZAOCHENGDESUNSHI,HUODUIYUGERENYINSIWANG、SHANGCAN、JIBINGJISHENGCUNDAOMOUYITEDINGQIXIANERJIEFUBAOXIANJIN。JINGGUODUONIANSHIJIANHECHUANGXIN,BAOXIANGONGNENGLILUNTICHUBAOXIANBUJINJUYOUJINGJIBUCHANGGONGNENG,HAIYOUZIJINRONGTONGGONGNENGHESHEHUIFENGXIANGUANLIGONGNENG。

  ZAIBAOXIANZEJUYOUBAOXIANYE“ANQUANFA”HEBAOXIANSHICHANG“DIAOKONGQI”DEDUTEGONGNENG。2007NIAN《ZHONGGUOBAOXIANYE“SHIYIWU”FAZHANYUJIANGUANZHISHIDATI》YINQILEGUANGDAQUNZHONGDEXINGQU,WOYECANJIALEDATIKAOSHIBINGHUOLEJIANG,ZHEITIXIANLEBAOXIANLILUNDEJIASHENHEBAOXIANZHISHIDEPUJI,YOULIYUTIGAOFUWUSHUIPING,TIGAOJINGZHENGNENGLIHEJIANGUANXIAONENG,TONGSHIDUICUJINGAIGE、BAOZHANGJINGJI、WENDINGSHEHUI、ZAOFURENMINFAHUIYUELAIYUEZHONGYAODEZUOYONG。DANSHIYOUYUDIZIBO、RENKOUDUO、ZIJINSHAO,HAIBUNENGZUODAOYOUFENGXIANJIUYOUBAOXIAN,LIRUDUINONGYEBAOXIAN、JUZAIBAOXIAN、ZHONGDAJICHUSHESHIJIANSHEDENGYOUGUANMINSHENGDEBAOXIANFUGAIMIANHAIBUZU。

为民族复兴保驾护航

  问:作为中再的老领导,您对中再的发展和年轻人有哪些期待和寄语?

  WANGZHONGSHI:WORENWEIBAOXIAN、ZAIBAOXIANSHIYIGEYONGJIUXINGDESHIYE,RUJINZHONGGUOYUSHIJIESHANG100DUOGEGUOJIAYOUMAOYIWANGLAI,ZHEIDUIZAIBAOXIANDEYEWUXUQIUHENDA。

  JINGUANWOYILIKAIGONGZUOGANGWEIDUONIAN,DANZHIJINYIRANREAIHEGUANXINZAIBAOXIAN。ZHONGZAIYIYOU70NIANDELISHILE,ZAIBAOXIANCONGWUDAOYOU、CONGXIAODAODA,RUJINFAZHANDEYUELAIYUEHAO。XIWANGZHONGZAIRENJIXUNULI,DANFUQIGUOJIAZAIBAOXIANDESHIMING,WEIZHONGHUAMINZUDEWEIDAFUXINGBAOJIAHUHANG。WOGANLEYIBEIZIZAIBAOXIAN,RUGUOXIABEIZIHAIYOUJIHUI,WOHAISHIYUANYIGANZAIBAOXIAN,ZHONGZAIXING“ZAI”,WOYEXING“ZAI”。

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